Hello guys! First you can present each band member and ages. You had any line up change till today? Any other experience in bands before?
John does vocals, Travis slams drums, and Eric plays bass. We have gone through two guitar players already, one just recently getting the boot, so we are in between members at the moment. However, our good friend Kyle from Birthrite and a local friend, Ian, are helping fill the spot during gigs until we find another permanent member.
Travis sings
for Birthrite as well, and John plays bass, but has had numerous bands over the
years, since he was 13 years old. His band Nation of Pride/Under Attack (we
could never settle on a name, so we used both) finally is having our album,
which we recorded ten years ago, released on American Defense Records very
soon, so keep an eye out!
You have strong bonds and you share members with two
other bands, Birthrite and Wellington Arms. Talk us about this relationship.
Which the main differences between these bands?
Well, Fascine, Birthrite, and Wellington Arms are all in the American Defense Skinheads, along with Final Verdict and a brand new project called Contempt. ADS focuses alot on music and keeping the skinhead culture alive, but also are involved politically with the National Justice Party as well as numerous other nationalist organizations and groups.
As far as the differences between Birthrite and Fascine is definitely the style and message. Birthrite is more street-level classic American RAC/Oi!, while Fascine is politically in-your-face and has a heavier, darker sound, I would say. And our friends in Wellington Arms just play some kickass skinhead rock n roll. We do not share any members with them though. They are definitely one of our favorite American bands from the last decade or so. How they have not attracted more attention is beyond my understanding. So go out there and listen to some fuckin Wellington Arms already!
What about American Defense label? Is running by you?
What the story and what about all the activities through this label? Any info
for future releases?
American Defense Records was started in 2003 or so by the drummer, it was started as a way to release American Oi! music during a time when there wasn't alot going on in the States as far as patriotic skinhead labels. Originally the label was largely non-political, just pro American in a time when that still made sense. The label was shut down for a few years due to work and other conditions that made it impractical to operate a record label. In 2014 or so, the label was brought back from the dead, this time with a much more political stance. The first release after the resurrection was Blood In the Face, Red White and Black, among others. It was felt that a pro-American, non-political stance was no longer valid as things had become much more divisive and unstable domestically since the early 2000’s when the label was started. Once we started wanting to write and record our own music, the label was the obvious choice. So we put out the first Birthrite vinyl on the label, which was the American Bulldog 45 rpm 12". The label became nearly impossible to operate with constant heavy censorship and blocking of payment processors. We are still releasing a few albums a year just to keep it active. But it's very hard to sell stuff in large quantities due to heavy censorship. There are two vinyl LPs that will be released this year still. One is Nation of Pride "Our Struggle" LP, which is John (Fascine vocalist) his band before Fascine where he sang and played bass. Heavy working class skinhead style music, a few of these songs were featured on the 'Changing of the Guard' double LP compilation as 'Under Attack'. The second release is a forgotten Oi! band from the 80's, this is the first skinhead band from Pittsburgh called 'First Strike'. This is not the same First Strike from NYC, the band from Pittsburgh had the name before but was never released and essentially unknown outside of the Pittsburgh area. This was recorded by the same producer and at the same studio as the Best Defense 'Six Gun Justice' album.
I buy your album and i can say easy is one of my top
right now! Very '90's sound and old school feeling with clever lyrics! Talk us
about your music influences. Which American and European R.A.C bands like to
listen mostly?
Thanks for the compliment! We just wrote music that we would could see ourselves listening to and didn't really expect anyone outside of our friends to be into it, but we are glad that people are enjoying it!
Our main influences are a lot of European RAC like Legion 88 from France, Honor from Poland (who originally wrote Soldier from the North), Skrewdriver of course, Whitelaw, Hobnail, Boiling Blood, Kratky Proces from Slovakia. Basically alot of French and Eastern European RAC and Oi. And some darker post-punk like Joy Division and shit like that. Outside of the basic influences of our musical tastes, we kind of just wrote whatever we wanted, not really trying to sound like anything or anyone in particular. Whether we were successful at that is another thing... haha.
What subjects you dealing with, in your songs. Lyrics
is a team work or coming from one member only? Few words for my favourite song
of your album 'Smash The Cosmopolitan'. Talk us about the guy from Poland you
have dedications to him in your album.
I (John) write most of the lyrics. Travis wrote the lyrics for the song Consumed however. I'm not opposed to having everyone help, but realistically, it's just easier to have one person write them. Also it helps keep the style of the lyrics constant and noticeable.
The subjects range from Jewish control of the media and American (anti-)culture to the disease that is urbanization and cosmopolitanism. I like to keep the lyrics strictly political, with a more typical smash-them-up skinhead type song every now and then, just to keep everything from sounding like a political rant, and grounded in who we are and what we are trying to preserve/resurrect.
I'm glad you like Smash the Cosmopolitan! It is definitely one of our favorite songs to play, and one of my favorite, lyrically. It's really just about the inhuman and unnatural worldview of cosmopolitanism that we are living under right now, where ethnic identity and pride are to be destroyed (for Whites), our history erased, and our relationship to the land is replaced with concrete emptiness and plasticity. It was an important issue when Mein Kampf was written and it's an even more important issue right now because we are dealing with the consequences of cosmopolitanism being victorious over the defenders of natural law.
And the Polish band, Honor, that we mentioned, are perhaps one of our favorite RAC bands. In fact, we will soon be releasing a 10-song split LP with the original singer of Honors' band OWK (Resistance in Blood).
What about your gigs? With what other bands you had
play and what you prepare in the near future? Any problem to organize musical
events there?
There have not been too many RAC gigs in the U.S., but we (American Defense Skinheads) try to put on our own gigs twice a year. However, lately, it seems like more people are putting them on again, which we are extremely happy to see. Also, the National Justice Party asks us to play at their events and meetings, so we get to play out pretty frequently.
We will play with almost anyone, as long as they are nationalist skinheads. So far we have played with Aggravated Assault, Blue Eyed Devils, Max Resist, Empire Falls, Wellington Arms (ADS), Final Verdict (ADS), Birthrite (ADS), Contempt (ADS), and Activist. There have been some nationalist bands who have reached out to us to play a gig, and while we may support them and even enjoy their music, they are not skinheads, so we have to turn them down. It is extremely important to us that we keep the ADS gigs strictly skinhead, since there has been a lack of focus on it for years.
And of course there is difficulty putting on gigs. From Antifa finding out, to getting harassed by the FBI, there are lots of obstacles we face, but we face that them and overcome them everytime and will continue to do whatever it takes to make these events take place. You can't stop us!
Your opinion about blacks they say are 'American'
patriots or some white 'nationalists' but not racialists.
American blacks and whites saying they are "nationalists" but not racialists is very common here, and a perversion of what being a nation biologically, and culturally, means. They claim that America was always a melting pot, and that it was never founded on race, but strictly a creed, the Constitution. Both of these ideas were began by Jews. Civic Nationalism and the "melting pot" identity of this country are both Jewish creations. While we may see eye to eye and agree with them on a lot of political and social points, they still represent and believe in a fallen country and corrupted identity, so they are as much an enemy as BLM and the system in general. They are the always-present Jewish controlled opposition.
How you see the creation of pseudo-heroes (zeros) like
Floyd, coming from sick society's standards and antifa wankers? Black violence
and crimes hiding by state and same time we must excuse for being whites even
we are minority in whole planet. What you believe about this fact and what see
in near future?
Of course making martyrs of human garbage like George Floyd is just part of the all-out attack on White nations. They tear down statues of our heroes and replace them with their own. It will get worse, as we can already see. Our fairy tales, as told through cinema, are being rewritten to be about blacks and feminists, and to include faggots and mentally ill trannies. There is no longer any authentic Western culture. It is the culture of faggotry, miscegenation, and baby-killing. Basically anything that goes against the inherent values of Whites. And it will just continue to get worse. There is no turning back the clock, or pushing back the tide, at least in the United States. The entire system needs to be completely eradicated.
What about your city? You have a base or members come
from different areas? What European roots have your members?
American Defense Skinheads have members all around the country; in Oregon, Virginia, California, Alabama, Illinois, New York, and Pennsylvania. But here in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, we have a handful of members and hangarounds, but there is a large, active, nationalist community and we all work on things together. In Fascine though, our families came from Hungary, Poland, Slovakia, and Germany. That is pretty much the ethnic makeup of the area. We have large eastern European, German, and Italian populations.
Which the main reason to call your band Fascine? Your
ideology is based on Mussolini regime? Theres differences for sure with
National Socialism so, which are these for you and what caused you to call yourself
Fascists not NS? You believe we need only a strong right state or mythology,
philosophy, mysticism, symbols etc have their powers and a great role in a
racialist society?
We are very much National Socialist AND fascist. NS is the truth, plain and simple. However, we feel that politically, a fascist government is the most desirable, with representation and cooperation between workers and owners. However, we chose the name Fascine because the fasce represents strength and power through unity, which is the only way we will win this struggle for existence which we are now in the midst of. Also a facsine is infrastructure that is used to stop the erosion of soil and land from a rushing tide etc., so there is a parallel between that and the fight against alien control and influence, and protecting our racial and national identities.
What can you tell us and which your opinion about the
Trump president situation before some time? What you believe about Afghanistan
and Muslim invasion in Europe! Which main problems face your country right now?
Trump said a lot of good things, but that is all. He surrounded himself by Jews and did absolutely nothing to better the situation of the White working class that is under attack, while having built this country. I believe the U.S. was very close to an actual Civil War, due to the growing divisions and tension, that the system just through us a bone to prevent it from happening. He is not one of us and we did not support him. There is no real political solution to our fight.
The Muslim invasion of Europe is obviously a planned replacement of the native populations. It seems the Jews and traitor politicians who stand to benefit from it, rope us into destabilizing Muslim countries through war, causing a refugee crisis, and quilting our countries into accepting them since "we" are responsible for creating the chaos that they are fleeing. It is disgusting and predictable. Here in the U.S. are seeing that right now with our withdrawal from Afghanistan and the resettlement of "refugees". Of course it is nothing new.
This also serves to anger Whites against Muslims, because we see them as invaders and as a race that is incompatible with Western civilization, so when Israel massacres Palestinians, or attacks Arab countries, we do not offer any criticism or resistance.
New world order game set with Covid...How was in USA
in the beginning and how is right now? How you dealing with lockdown as persons
and your opinion about vaccines? Your thoughts about their goals.
Fuck the Covid hysteria and lockdowns. They are nothing but a tool to further erase authentic culture. Alot of mom and pop businesses had to close down and sell to chain stores and large corporations. Whether covid exists is a moot point. It is still being used to turn us against eachother, to crackdown on dissidents, and to distract Whites from the immigration crises, the degeneracy being pushed on our children, and the anti-White policies being passed by the system. Our national debate has been changed from being focused on race to being about Covid and everything that entails.
Which persons of our cause you respect mostly? You
have also a dedication photo with many of them in your cd. What about writers
and books you have read and you like?
There are people, who are active today, who deserve all of our respect. Warren Balough and his father Alan, Greg Conte, and the rest of Central Committee of the National Justice Party. They are working their asses off and putting their lives and livelihoods on the line for our people. As well as Thomas from Patriot Front and all of his guys. They are all worthy leaders of the cause of our people. But of course there are others from the past that we look up to as great warriors and for guidance in our struggle. Leon Degrelle, Codreanu, Hitler, Mussolini, Oswald Mosley, Josef Tiso, Father Caughlin, George Lincoln Rockwell, Dr. William Pierce, etc. While our fight is in an advanced stage compared to where it was back when they were around, mainly that is a very literal fight for the survival of our race at this point, they saw what was coming early on and stood up, many giving their lives, to resist the Jewish menace and global nation-destroyers.
My personal favorite books are White Power by George Lincoln Rockwell, Mein Kampf of course, Tomorrow we Live by Mosley, Culture of Critique by Kevin Macdonald (in my opinion, the most important book to have been written in the last 50 years), The Lightning and the Sun by Sevitri Devi, Myth of the 20th Century by Rosenberg, anything by Lothrop Stoddard, and Let Them Look West by Marty Phillips. It's difficult to find a modern book that hits as hard as the classics, so I just stick to them for the most part.
What about religion? You are believer of some?
I am a Lutheran, and so have been my ancestors for hundreds and hundreds of years. After a long period of kind of not believing in anything and trying to figure things out, I found my way back to the church. As far as I am concerned, the whole "religious debate" in the white nationalist movement does absolutely nothing but sow division and creates disunity, which is the most grievous sin against our people right now. Pagans attacking Christians, Christians talking shit on Pagans, it is fucking deplorable. We are in the midst of a war for our very existence as a race. Division and drama is unacceptable and unforgivable.
Last words are yours. Thank you very much for your
time and i hope keep rockin for good!
Thank you very much for the interview and the thought-provoking questions! We, as a band as well as a crew, are always doing something and invite everyone to check us out and, if possible, attend our events or get in touch. My (John) email is bookandrifle@protonmail.com, and you can find ADS on Telegram at https://t.me/AmericanDefense. Keep an eye out for our upcoming split LP with OWK from Poland in the next couple months as well. Thanks again, and keep the faith!
